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±ê Ìâ: About F-2 visa 
·¢ÐÅÕ¾: BBS Ë®Ä¾Çå»ªÕ¾ (Wed Sep 24 20:22:59 1997) 
 
It's time for us to unit. Here is a letter from oversea. 
 
 From: Xinfa Cai <xcai@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>

 
Here, I tell you the real F-2 visa situation in Beijing. It is almost 
impossible to get F-2 visa in Beijing now. The refusing reason is about 
the same for every applicant: your financial situation is not good 
enough 
for your visiting. According to my wife, less than 5% applicants can 
have 
that luck to get their visas. 
 
Regarding my wife's situation, she was refused twice and the reasons are 
the same(financial situation). In fact, my TA stipend (I also have 
tuition waiver) is 3000$ more than the our living expenses according to 
the living standard in North Dakota. Mrs Mary Chacko, the immigration 
specialist in our university, also wrote a letter showing that my 
stipend 
is good enough for my wife's visiting. As a plus, I have 12000$ 
banlance 
in a local bank. The visa officers in Beijing even did not review her 
documents and just told her the living expenses of each people should be 
close to 10,000$(in fact, they are questioning the authority of I-20), 
my 
stipend should be more than the total of our expenses and the bank 
savings 
could not be accepted(it means that I have to have 
about 20,000$ stipend besides tuition waiver if my wife wants to get her 
visa). How come! My wife is not the only person who was told that. 
Most 
of F-2 applicants in Beijing got the similar refusing reasons. 
According 
to my wife, as she knew, the only person who got her visa was a girl 
whose 
husband got 40,000$ assistantship from his school per year. 
 
The situation in Beijing is that about 20 F-2 applicant go to apply for 
but only one or two have luck to get visa. According to my wife, almost 
all of them have the same financial situation as us and we all are 
refused. I am wondering if the Beijing visa officers are following a 
wrong guidance. If it is true, they should be chanledged, oterwise, 
people will lose trust to law documents(I-20 etc). In my example, my 
wife's visa denial has put us in deep depression and my study and living 
is being affected. My wife feels desperate and crys a lot when I call 
her. The situation is out of our expectation and experience. I am 
wondering if we have some ways to help out. 

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I was there too yesterday. I happened to have lunch with that lucky 
girl who got yellow note yeaterday afternoon. So I know her situation 
pretty well. Her husband is studying in South Florida University. She 
applied F2 visa twice and got refused in June due to too high personal 
fund needed (6000 USD and 3000 USD). Yesterday she presented a new I20 
form with more than 2,000 USD stipend. Her estimated living expenses 
is 17,000 USD (for two person) per year but she has more than 18,000 
USD for their living. After she presented all her document, she started 
to explain before the officer aksed her question. She mainly explained 
that due to her husband's success in study and research, his advicer 
raised his stipend and now they have enough money to cover their living. 
She also present his husband's telephone bill which says that the long 
distance call costs him about 130 USD per month. The officer who inter- 
viewed her in front of the Embassy gate in the morning was " Huang mao". 
The officer who interview her in the afternoon inside the Embassy was a 
lady with long hair. There were a lot of ladies standing outside the 
Embassy who visited US Embassy frequently and know things well. According 
them, the officer's attitude towards F2 visa application is a little 
bit different from one to another. 
 
My impresssion is that 1/3 F2 visa applicants got visa yesterday. There 
are some rules which guide the visa officer. Those whose 8(b)-7(a) on 
I-20 form is less than 15,000 USD seems difficult to get F2 visa even 
their stipend is enough to cover their tuition fee and living expenses. 
The officer do not believe the estimated living expenses in I-20 form. 
 
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·¢ÐÅÕ¾: BBS Ë®Ä¾Çå»ªÕ¾ (Thu Oct 30 18:06:17 1997) 
 
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Hi, friends, 
I have some new infromation to tell you. 
The first, one of my friends was denied this moring for f-2 visa. She was 
told that she has not enough money. When she asked the visa official how 
much was needed for a visa, The visa official said, actually not all the 
problems are from money, the situation was not very good. 
Let's think about what he said carefully. What the meaning of " the 
situation is not good? " It might suggested that they were obeying some 
rules they can not tell us. Therefore, they can only restirict the visa by 
the funds. As we know, only 10% can get a high salary for covering all the 
expenses. So it is useful for them as a REASON OR A RULE to award the visa. 
 
The second, my wife went to the Beijing Embassy on Oct. 28 and 29, she told 
me that there were hundreds of f-2 applicants waiting in the outside of the 
embassy. They dare not risk to apply the visas. And she told me some rules 
analysized from the sucessful applicants. 
 
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 1. 8b-7a-7b-7c-7d>0,and 8b>$15000, 
 
 2. The school is famous. 
 
Six f-2 applicants got F-2 visas on27/10 and 2 got their visas on29/10. 
No one got the f-2 visa on Oct. 28. and In their I-20 form, 8b-7a is more 
than $16000 and 8b is more than 7a+7b+7c+7d. 
 
One of my friends got her visa yestoday . 
 
Her I-20 form: 
 
 7a $13000 7B $12000 7c $4500 
 
 8a $0 8b $31000 
 
The visa office don't believe anything but 8b on the I-20 form. 

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