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发信人: myosotis (阿金★幸福飞走了), 信区: AdvancedEdu
标 题: 97年F2签证总录4
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sun Jan 18 09:33:19 1998)

发信人: Predator ( 五七战士), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: It may not so difficult to get F-2 now 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Wed Nov 26 06:59:54 1997) 
 
HI I am a student in University of Chicago, and my wife is in China 
right now. She got the F-2 visa this morning, and it is her first time 
to apply. Before she apply for visa, I read the article here and feel 
very upset since all news are bad news. But this morning she meet no 
difficulty, very smoothly. My fellowship-tuition=14,000$ not so high. 
And my personal fund is about 3,000$. She works for the bigest company 
in Tailand before and she could speak English fairly well. I guess that 
may be part of the reason. 
I think there must be some difficulty in obtaining F-2 visa, but the 
situation is not so bad as it appeared here. I suppose the reason is that 
when somebody get the visa, he or she will not bother to write article 
here, while those who don't tends to visit here and write articles. 
As a result, the information here is biased. 
Here I sincerely ask those who or whose spouse get the visa successfully 
share there experience with others since it is more valuable than those 
failure experience, and I wish all the couples still separated now could 
be reunited in the near future. 
One statement: I borrow this ID from a friend also in UC who used to be 
a student here and may not enjoy good reputation in BBS :-) so don't 
relate me to that guy if you know him. 
If anyone wants to ask me some question, please email: 
zhu@galton.uchicago.edu 
It would be my pleasure to help any seperated couples to be reunited 

发信人: Predator ( 五七战士), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: F-2 visa: detail! 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Thu Nov 27 01:28:54 1997) 
 
HI Yesterday many people emailed me to ask for "detail" Here is the detail 
I know. I wish it could be helpful. 
I have statement from citybank which said I have some money in it. 
I don't remember the exact number, but it certainly less than 4,000 $ 
since I didn't borrow money from others and that is the "true" finanical 
situation of mine. 
My wife answer the question in English, and there are only three very 
simple question. How long have you got married? When did your 
 husband go to US? The 3nd one I forgot, also sth like that. 
I don't think it really matter.It seems he didn't check the bank 
statement very carefully and there is no question about job or come-back. 
 
About my I-20, I have 37,000 from the school, 23,000 for tuition and fees, 
personal fund required is about 1,200 $. Based on the living expense in 
Chicago this figure is not high at all. 
 
I don't know the 
details of the form she submit. Later she told me that there are only one 
girl before her who got visa, so the situation may still tough. But if you 
have enough money on your I-20, you may try, there is chance. 
I think before holiday they tend to give visa more generaous. So why not 
try before Chrismas? 
wish you and your wife have good luck! 

发信人: liyuanqyq (yuanyuan), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: F-2 visa experience in Beijing 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Nov 28 08:03:01 1997) 
 
My wife got her F-2 visa this month. There are only three people 
did it that day. But their backgrounds are very different. I study 
MBA in Y and only have $10000 grant. So my self-support is $40000. 
In many People's opinions, my wife had little opportunity to get 
her F-2. But eventually, she did it in the window of Ambassy's gate. 
The other lucky girl is from Anderson, her husband study CS in Princeton 
and has full scolarship. She was refused a week ago. This time she 
provided her salary certificate of about $2000/month in Anderson. 
So she got her visa right after my wife. The most important point to 
get F-2 is how to persuade consular that you have enough money to live 
in US. Everyone has opportunity to get it even though you have 
no schorlarship. 
 
I benefit from Tsinghua BBS many times, thank for those who can provide 
useful information for Chinese students. If there is someone has quesstions 
, feel free to mail me. I wish I can be of help. 
 

发信人: bravohero (bravo), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: a web site for F-2 issue 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sat Nov 29 04:54:03 1997) 
 
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi/mb19975

 
gook luck 

发信人: liyuanqyq (yuanyuan), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: To F2 applicants who have no enough schlorship 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Mon Dec 1 06:03:19 1997) 
 
I recieved some replies after my letter F2 experience in Beijing. Many 
people want to know some detailed background of my wife's application. 
I think that my background is too special to fit for general applicants. 
But the crux to get visa is how to make your application sound reasonable. 
One of my friend's wife experienced many bitter refuses. Eventually she 
got her visa depending on a letter wrote by his husband to describe how 
deep their love is. Obviously the consular was moved because he read the 
letter long time. And he even didn't read the other material and issued 
her visa. 
The amount of your schorship only acted as the reason why you aes refused. 
I menioned in my last letter that I only had $10000 grant and had no tuition 
waiver. So I selfsupport about $40000. When I apply for my F1, I convinced 
the consular I can and have enough money to support my MBA study with 
confidence. My wife also did it by this way. And I see many syudents' spouse 
also get F2 visa under the situation they have no enough financial support 
from unversity. 
So , those loving and bitter Chinese students andtheir spouses, brace up, 
well prepare for your application. Everyone have ability and right to get 
F2. Even if you lose allof your hope, you still have many choices, such as B1. 
I know many people get to US by this way. But it could spend too many money, 
so it does not fit for people have no enough money. Anyway, try your best, 
try! If anyone need help, I can be of use. Feel free, maybe we had already 
known each other. 
 
Good luck, our poor overseas students! 

发信人: wmxiao (xiao), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: About F2 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Tue Dec 2 11:38:53 1997) 
 
My wife got her F2 visa last week. Before go to apply for visa, my wife and me 
read alll the papers about F2 in bbs of tsinghua. I think we should thank for 
the friends on bbs. Since I got the permission to send letter to hte bbs just 
today, I feel sorry that I have not do this earlier. 
 
Now I will talk about the process of my wife's F2 visa. In our I20 form,the 
7a is about 25000, 7b about 11500 and 7c about 5500, the 8a(personal fund) is 
about 6000 and the 8b is about 40000. My wife got her visa at the gate. It is 
the old man who she met. He just look at I20 and F156 or maybe something else 
I don't remmember clearly but it is not important, I think.The questions he 
asked are "What your husband's name, When do you get married, when do your 
husband go to USA , do you miss your husband". I think these questions are 
easy to answer and the answers should be clear and exact. He asked in Chinese 
and I think it is because wife saied "ni3 hao3" in Chinese before he began to 
ask. 
 
The above is the detail. I think the important things are 8b-(7a+7b+7c) is not 
low, the schoool is good and then your carefully prepare, being confident and 
the last, luck. I am in Norhtwestern Univ. AS I know only one or two spauses 
of the Norhtwestern's chinese students do not get the F2 visa. The reasons may 
be: 1.Northwestern Univ. is not bad; 2. The 7a,7b,7c and 8b-7 are all high. 
8b -7 here are all about 15000. the one whose wife do not get F2 is because 
she go to apply for visa with their child the first time and the second time 
she 

发信人: wmxiao (xiao), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: About F2 (continuou) 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Tue Dec 2 12:04:17 1997) 
 
(continuou with my first letter). She come alone the second time and she met 
the lady from taiwan. I know some spouses here were turned down at thire first 
time and they got F2 at thire second time. Some of them changed the I20 form. 
they asked thire advicor to give them three months additional financial aid 
since they originally got 9 month fellowship or TA. Some of them have 12 month 
financial aid originally and they just using the materials for the second 
time application and they got it. They told me the first time the people even 
do not look at the I20 (the time is at the end of Oct.) and I remember at 
that time only one from Northwestern Univ. got visa. But after Holloween, 
most people here got it. 
 
As I heard here, not only the application for F2 become difficult, the 
application for Green Card also become difficult. Maybe America began to 
notice that many chinese people come and stay here. 
 
My suggestions is that you shoould prepare carefully and thoroughly before 
go to apply for F2. When go to apply, be confident. If you yourself do not 
believe you have the right to meet your spouse, who will believe ? The 
America will never say "no, you can't go to see your husband", because this 
is their beleif in the religion and in their mind , and they just find some 
other reasons to turn down the applications. If you have been turned down, 
just do something you can. (to be continued) 

发信人: wmxiao (xiao), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: About F2(3) 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Tue Dec 2 12:20:18 1997) 
 
Before my wife got the visa, I am so warried about it. My roommate told me 
don't just warry, do some thing to make your situation the best you can. If 
the applicaiton was turned down, you should still do more, at least you can 
apply again and again. 
 
You can pray to God for your good luck. You may not believe in God but it will 
not hurt anybody. If you really love your spouse, you need to do anything 
really helpful and good to your love. I can tell you I pray all the day at 
that important day for me and my wife. Our fate should not be decided by any 
other people. Where the heart is happy is the place where the body is happy, 
home and family are always the ultimate choice. 
 
I hope what I wrote will be helpful to you and wish everybody get what she/he 
really want. 
 
your friend 
Xiao 

发信人: nets30 (fire), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: 今日F2签证形势甚好 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Wed Dec 3 10:48:08 1997) 
 
今天上午,与我友去美国使馆签证,签证官为一中年老外,签证形势一片大好. 
就F2而言,只要学校提供的费用能够cover双方生活费及F1学费,即可顺利签成.我观察了 
数人,有只多约$400者也立即签成;但有人不足约$300则痛遭拒签. 

发信人: maggie ( 翩翩毛), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: Re: 如谁拿到F-2在这两天，请公布一下，给大家点信息� 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Thu Dec 4 23:35:10 1997) 
 
My husband got his visa on Dec. 2. When the officer wrote the yellow 
sheet for him. A girl behind him said "you get it, you get it". 
My husband turned back and said "hope you are lucky". The officer 
also smiled, then the girl who just has $11000 stipend got the visa, too. 
BTW, in my I20 form, 8b-7a=$15800 
 
Hope all F-2 applicants are lucky 
【在 zhangxj (逸远) 的大作中提到: 】 
∶ 看昨天有同志贴出这两天签证形势好转，可也不见 
∶ 得胜得同志发言。这两天，拿到F-2得同志，请别 
∶ 闷在心里，有好事，让大家也高兴高兴。 
∶ 愿F-2问题早日解决。 

发信人: roger1 (阿花), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: Re: 如谁拿到F-2在这两天，请公布一下，给大家点信息� 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Dec 5 00:47:21 1997) 
 
【在 maggie ( 翩翩毛) 的大作中提到: 】 
∶ My husband got his visa on Dec. 2. When the officer wrote the yellow 
∶ sheet for him. A girl behind him said "you get it, you get it". 
∶ My husband turned back and said "hope you are lucky". The officer 
∶ also smiled, then the girl who just has $11000 stipend got the visa, too. 
∶ BTW, in my I20 form, 8b-7a=$15800 
∶ Hope all F-2 applicants are lucky 
 
My wife get F-2 vesa in Guangzhou yesterday.It seems the situation in 
Guangzhou is much better in Beijing. In Dec 2th,ther were four F-2 applicants, 
and three of them got F-2. 
The officier asked my wife just two quetions: 
1.When did your husbands went to USA? 
2.The photo of your husband and you please 
 
In my I-20,I have a teaching fellowship of 13,000/year(12 monthes),I still 
need to pay fro the tuition about 3000$.This just cover my expense only.The 
estrimation of one dependant in my school is about 1500$.I deposited only 
3100$.And I am a PHD candidate in EE. 
 
I hope this info will be helpful for other F-2 applicants. 
I have got a lot of useful info from BBS, specially from toughguy. 
Thanks, toughguy.And good luck to all F-2 applicants! 

发信人: Erin (gladlady), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: something on F-2 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sat Dec 6 09:48:29 1997) 
 
本人于十二月四日去使馆看了看，F-2的形式非常坏，当天我只看到两人got their F-2. 
The situation in Beijing is still not good. 美国人真把中国人当猴耍，看得令人非 
常气分！多盼望我们的国家快强大。在龟子那的中国人快回来建设祖国巴！ 

发信人: dilemma (彷徨), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: 没进门就签了 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Tue Dec 9 05:46:07 1997) 
 
Hi, comrades: 
 My wife got the visa yesterday without entering the main gate of the 
embassy. And it's the Taiwan woman who gave the visa to her. 
 Our I-20 form is as following: 
 7.a $13,900 
 8.a $5,500 
 8.b $30,660 
 you know it's the dead week now, and I have three final terms. So I'll 
post my preparation for the visa later. 

发信人: linn (小猫), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: 我签到了！ 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Dec 12 16:28:22 1997) 
 
我8th Dec去签F2. 在使馆门口就签了。I-20上的钱并不多，8b-7a也就1,2000 
但我先生有暑期三个月$7000的收入，此笔收入在学校发出的邀请信中提到了。 
我那天一去，碰到的是那位台湾小姐。我不容她问就将暑假的这笔收入提了 
出来。她于是仔细看了我的邀请信，然后就问，我先生每月的月收入，出国前做 
的工作。然后问我，我的工作以及收入。我听到这个问题时有点紧张，因为有人 
说这不是好兆头。台湾小姐接着又问了我一些诸如我先生何时去的美国之类的问 
题，然后就对里面一位金发女郎低声说了一些话，是说我们的收入的情况，接着 
就签了。 
我感到最近的形势不错。只要钱不太少，就没什么问题。我去的那天F2签了好几 
个。 
祝大家好运！ 

发信人: ram1 (ram), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: F2 visa 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Dec 12 22:09:17 1997) 
 
Now I think it is the golden time for F2 visa. 
7b-8a < 12000$, you also can get it. On Dec.11th 
I got within this much. Another girl behand me 
with similar money also got issued. Before me 
a girl with money different less than 8000 got 
refused. 

发信人: acrane (云中鹤), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: Re: F-2 快跑光了? 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Fri Dec 12 23:19:30 1997) 
 
这两天F2好象情况不错。今天去领签证碰上数个签成F2的，一个$11，000,两个$13,000, 
一个$15,000,其中有两个是一签成功的。 
� 在 systemer0 (听听) 的大作中提到: 】 
∶ maybe people are waiting new year or all are too disppointed 
∶ to see and write any about it. 
∶ ----- 
∶ FIREBIRD 

发信人: qchen (whoIam), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: 没奖竟签成F2？ 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sat Dec 13 02:00:17 1997) 
 
近日使馆打探得系：A YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL LADY GET HER F2 WITHOUT 
ANY SCHALORSHIP FROM HER HUABAND SCHOOL。大吃一惊，看样子大家都 
有戏，并且在门口就成功。据说HER HUSBAND 读MBA，好像很有名，我也不知 
是谁，有了解的请告知，你知到我多么焦急与MY HUABAND REUNION。 

发信人: ram1 (ram), 信区: AdvancedEdu 
标 题: F2 visa 
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Sat Dec 13 13:29:28 1997) 
Someone asked me about the materials for application of 
F2 visa. Here is my suggestion: 
 
Application form 156, I-20, A letter from the university of I-20, 
Marriage book, Bank certificates, Bank balance, 
Invitation letter from your spouse, visa copy of your spouse, 
Your staff card, A vacation letter from your institute (usually 3 months), 
Your salary sheet, ... 
 
Anyhow bring whatever you can get, which you think it is useful. 
Of cause it will change for different cases. A girl behind me, 
that day I applied for the visa, told me that her materials were not 
checked, and no question was asked, before she got issued. Of cause 
she prepared a lot of things for the interview. 
 
I made a trick. I wrote a letter to explain about my case to the 
officer with all other materials submitted. I was refused before, 
and the officer didn't want to listen to my explanation. I think 
that as they don't want to listen, I had better to allow them 
to read. It really worked that day. The officer read my letter 
from beginning to the end. I wrote I missed my wife too much. 
After reading, there was a smile on his face. I knew I was lucky 
then. I got passed. 
 
I hope all F2 people get their visa in the near future. 
Prepare the best to go to the embassy. I hope my suggestion 
can help them, I know the hard life after they left their 
jobs for the passport. 

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